This is the sutram of the objects dissolving methods, which can says in your words, ego less or no mind state, because if you are throw your identity, or psychological says that ID or Ego. (According to the psychology theory the id is the primitive and instinctual part of the mind, which contains sexual and aggressive drives and hidden memories, the super-ego, operates as a moral conscience, and the ego is the realistic part that mediates between the desires of the id and the super-ego). If you are throw your identity you become one with this existence, when you are finding your ego or id is dissolved, you are become bondless or no minded. But the psychologies never accept that there are no such things like that no-mind. But really they are not go beyond the mind or understanding the mind, whenever they are trying to identifies the mind they are remain searching within the mind. Therefore they never understanding, what is mind, when they wanted to researching about the mind they always using the Freud's psycho analyses, really the Freud's psychological view are very short about this research, why because the western philosophy is not that much better then, the eastern philosophy's, why because the, are normally measuring with the mind, through the object and subject. But really, there is no such things exist, or two things or exist, why because the object and the subject are the mind created imagination, why because the mind always wanted to measure the things with one object and subject. But really there are no such things like the object or subject, only the subject or object. Why because the identities are made relevance measurements, what are the relevant measurements? Anyone can identify with the relative or relevant things to understanding themselves. Why because without object the subject not measured, the same things in subject also. But really these subject and object are the human mind created imagination. Why because the object and the subject are not the related or relative things, that is same one, that is otherwise called as the same things in different name. Like the two sides of the coin. You say that coin, then the coin not measured by one side of the head or tile. Why because the head and tile both makes one things that is coin. The same things in this mind created imagination things is the object and subject. Why because the subject and the object are not separated one that is same one, like as a coin. Therefore we never measured with the mind or never calculated the mind within mind, then how can we finding out what is the mind. Because the mind is always we measures within the mind, therefore we always falls short, or made the confusion about the mind. Really if you wanted to know the mind you never understanding within the mind, you can understanding these measure without mind, but our psychological finding never understanding, what is the non-mind or no-mind. Why because they are measuring to the mind as the scale of objective or subjective, measures. Really these two imagination things are created by our own mind, then how can we understanding to the mind? That is not possible; therefore the modern psychological findings neither are stops here, within the mind nor go beyond the mind. But in this case the western philosophy is fair beyond the eastern philosophy. Because when the western philosophy is searching for the mind, at the same time the eastern philosophy is goes without mind. In this different also impacts psychological finding through the mind. The western philosophy always hanging within mind, the eastern philosophy goes beyond the mind. If you can understand this different then you can easily understanding, the subject and object are mind created imagination one, otherwise you never understanding, what they are indicating. And also the western psychological id and ego is different from the eastern.
